What support is there for children for children to get back to school while awaiting support from CAMHS support with mental health and being screened for ADHD?

We would expect schools to put in place a plan with your young person and yourself using their own support staff.  Many schools have support staff trained in working with children and young people with emotional wellbeing and mental health needs such as ELSAs (emotional literacy support assistant). Please do remember that our school nursing service can also provide support, advice and signposting that includes emotional health and wellbeing.   

If you have any concerns or questions whilst waiting for support to start from CAMHS, the team will be happy to answer queries that arise, you can email letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk or call 01305 221783.   

Please do visit the SEND Local offer to see what else is available.  We also have some links and resources that you may find helpful: 

Daughter, 16 - ASD Diagnosis in April, in receipt of PIP (personal independence payments) etc - has left school after GCSEs this summer. Some further education settings require an EHCP for 16-25 education. How do we best pursue this, given she's no longer at the school and they would usually guide us through?

Parents, carers and young people can make a request for an assessment. We will still be looking for the evidence of the young person's needs, and what has been tried so far. There is some information here that might be helpful: I think my child may have SEND - Dorset Council   

There is a dedicated team at the council that helps give advice to young people who are not in employment, education or training.  The team will be more than happy to discuss what might be available, you can contact them at  EETSupport@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk or 01305 221783.    

You can also find more information at: Education and employment options 

We would be happy to understand some further information from you in terms of the conversations with the further education settings.  Please could you email letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk and we will pick up a further conversation with you. 

How do EHCPs work with home schooling?

Parents, carers and young people can make a request for an assessment. We will still be looking for the evidence of the young person's needs, and what has been tried so far. There is some information here that might be helpful: I think my child may have SEND - Dorset Council   

There is also further information about educating your child at home here: Educating your child at home and flexi-schooling - Dorset Council  

There are some things in law that the local authority will do differently for children who are electively home educated, for example we do not have a duty under section 22 of the Children and Families Act 2014 to assess every home educated child to see whether they have Special Educational Needs, but we can still work with you to help you understand how best to support your child.  

SEND_Code_of_Practice_January_2015.pdf (publishing.service.gov.uk) 

Daughter suffers with rare condition and receives DLA - a specialist charity, who advises and assists with EHCP applications, suggest that these are granted. However, having just put in an application for my daughter (3), we have been told that an EHCP would not be considered as it is physical, and not a learning, impairment. Is this correct?

Whether an Education, Health and Care Needs Assessment is necessary depends on if your daughter’s physical need or health condition affects her learning and access to education. Schools can access support through the Physical and Medical Needs Service (PMNS) provided by Dorset Council. 

We recommend discussing this with her preschool (if she attends one) and/or her health professional (such as a health visitor, GP, or paediatrician) to determine if an EHC Needs Assessment is appropriate at this time. 

In my experience trauma is not picked up by anyone other than psychologists - but we could not get our child seen by a psychologist, either through the NHS or the school for 4 years. If you’re serious about getting the child’s needs helped early, I think this should be improved.

We’re sorry that you’ve had this experience, it always saddens us to hear of children not getting the support they need at the earliest point possible. 

Each school has a dedicated educational psychologist and specialist teacher who meet with the school every term to discuss inclusion and individual student needs. Educational psychologists may provide interim support while you wait for a referral. 

We are working to improve trauma and mental health care by helping schools adopt a therapeutic approach to behaviour, focusing on building relationships. You can ask the school's SENDCO to talk to an educational psychologist about your child’s needs. 

Educational psychologists offer training and guidance to school staff to better support trauma-experienced students. 

Dorset Council is involved in the CAMHS review, using feedback from families and young people to improve mental health services. Your feedback has been particularly generous, and we will use it to inform this review. 

If your family is facing challenges, please call our team at 01305 228866 to discuss your situation. 

What is the time scale for a decision following an assessment, after the local authority has conceded, while awaiting the tribunal? I received the letter confirming my child would be assessed 3 months ago but have not received a decision yet.

If we are directed by a tribunal to undertake an assessment, we will follow the statutory process. Usually when the tribunal courts issue an order this will come with key dates and for a final decision it is usually two weeks from the date of the order. In cases where Dorset Council has agreed to assess a young person for their needs in line with the Education, Health and Care assessment process we would then consider whether or not we should issue an EHCP and this would be based on the advice received from practitioners working with the young person, including their setting.  

Often, schools can implement the recommended interventions without the need for an EHCP, and if this is the case, we would be involved in discussions with you and your child’s about how to effectively support your child.  

If you would like to send further details through to Letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk we can respond to you individually. We can come alongside you to help to unpick what has happened.  

You may also want to reach out to Dorset SENDIASS . The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset.  

You are welcome to contact the SENDIASS team directly. Their response time is up to five days, and they work on a triage system. When you contact them, please provide further information. Include any urgent deadlines or need, phone number and email plus availability.  

Website contact form: https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/contact/  

Email:  dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk  

Tel:  01305 595477 (answer machine service)  

Their website offers further advice and signposting at https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/   

 

For a 16-year-old applying for an EHCP is it better for the child or parent to request?

We’re always delighted when young people reach out to us. As they develop and form their own views, they should be increasingly involved in decisions about their future. After reaching the end of the academic year in which they turn 16, the right to make requests and decisions shifts directly to the young person. 

Parents and other family members can continue to support or act on behalf of the young person, as long as the young person is comfortable with this. We recognise that parents are likely to remain closely involved for most young people. 

What can I do if the school is not particularly helpful, when all other professionals agree that an EHCP would be beneficial? The school disagreed that one is needed, even though my child is clearly struggling with basic subjects and learning – I’m also really concerned about child leaving school this year with no support. I have termly conversations with the SENDCO but I’m getting nowhere.

We understand that you absolutely want the best for your child. Not every child with special educational needs or disabilities (SEND) requires an Education, Health, and Care Plan (EHCP). Most children with SEND can have their needs met in inclusive, mainstream schools, early years settings, or further education. These settings receive funding to support children without an EHCP and are expected to use this to meet individual needs through the 'Graduated Approach.’ This is as way of meeting a child’s through ordinarily available provision,' which outlines available support and how to adapt it as needed. 

An EHCP is for children whose needs cannot be fully met by the support ordinarily available at their setting. It outlines their educational, health, and care needs, with goals to help them progress toward independence, employment, and being an active member of their communities. 

If you've explored the support your child is receiving but would like to discuss further, please contact us at LetsTalkSEND@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk for a personalised conversation. 

You can also reach out to Dorset SENDIASS, which provides free, confidential advice to families in Dorset. The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset. 

You are welcome to contact the SENDIASS team directly. Their response time is up to five days, and they work on a triage system. When you contact them, please provide further information. Include any urgent deadlines or need, phone number and email plus availability.  

Contact them directly via: 

Website contact form: Contact Dorset SENDIASS 

Email: dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk 

Phone: 01305 595477 (answer machine service) 

Visit their website for more information: Dorset SENDIASS 

My sons school agrees he needs a EHCP but have told me they have 3 others to do first so could be waiting a very long time can I still apply by myself or is it better for the school to do it as they said I could be waiting up to a year for them to do it just so confused?

We’re sorry to hear that this has been your experience. You can apply for an EHCP anyway, but we will still ask the setting to provide us with information on what they have done so far. We'd be keen to know a bit more about this so do please email letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk with further information. 

You may also want to reach out to Dorset SENDIASS . The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset. 

You are welcome to contact the SENDIASS team directly. Their response time is up to five days, and they work on a triage system. When you contact them, please provide further information. Include any urgent deadlines or need, phone number and email plus availability.  

Website contact form: https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/contact/  

Email:  dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk  

Tel:  01305 595477 (answer machine service)  

Their website offers further advice and signposting at https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/  

My daughter is 8 and has struggled with anxiety and has been in-and-out of school for the last 2 years. She was referred in year 2 for ASD and possible information processing difficulties by the Mental Health in Schools Team but we’re still waiting for the first appointment. Support has been in place for the last year, and she’s recently seen the speech and language therapist who also agrees with the ASD and information sharing issues. We have a support worker who we have to help, but the school says she wouldn’t be able to have the EHCP. Speech and Language have encouraged me to go ahead and apply.

We’re really sorry to hear that's been your experience. If you would like to send further details through to Letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk we can respond to you individually. We can come alongside you to help to unpick what has happened.  

You may also want to reach out to Dorset SENDIASS

 The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset. 

You are welcome to contact the SENDIASS team directly. Their response time is up to five days, and they work on a triage system. When you contact them, please provide further information. Include any urgent deadlines or need, phone number and email plus availability.  

Website contact form: https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/contact/  

Email:  dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk  

Tel:  01305 595477 (answer machine service)  

Their website offers further advice and signposting at https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/  

 

My son’s EHC Needs Assessment submission was delayed and we’ve been told he’s being assessed. I’m certain he will need specialist provision having visited schools. I’d love to know what the timelines schools and panels have to give him the best chance to be assessed and considered for a place.

We know that for some children specialist provision is what is required, but for others it is possible for schools to meet your child’s needs. As part of the process, our team will work with you to determine the best place for him to be. For a lot of children, being in their local with their friends, is the best option and with support this can be made entirely possible. 

We hold an admissions panel with Dorset Special Schools every three weeks to review all children who may be suitable for each school, considering available spaces and the impact on the school. 

During this process, we will continue to support your child in their current setting. You can email additional details to Letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk, and we will respond individually to help you navigate the situation. 

When a needs assessment is requested, we have up to 6 weeks to inform you if we’ll proceed. If approved, the assessment must be completed within another 6 weeks, involving reports from professionals working with your child. If we decide to issue a plan, it will be done within 20 weeks of the initial request. 

If specialist provision is needed, your SEND Provision Lead will begin searching for suitable settings, starting with the closest option. You can also suggest schools for us to approach. After a decision, we will inform you within 3 working days. The admissions panel will determine if a setting can meet your child’s needs based on the EHCP. 

What happens when your school is only allocated so many 'hours' of educational psychologist/specialist teacher, and your school says that there are other children with greater need for those hours within the school? My child will not be seen due to this.

We are really sorry to hear this has been your experience. To help us best advise you, we would need to understand a little bit more about your specific situation, please email us at letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk we can pick up an individual conversation with you.   

Not every child will need an Education, Health and Care Plan - settings can provide really great support without a formal EHCP. This is known as a ‘graduated approach’ and you can read more about this on our Local Offer: The Graduated Approach - Dorset Council 

My daughter’s school have said they are not applying for an EHCP until January 2025 as they want to put everything in place first so that she doesn’t get turned down. Is this the right thing to do or should we just apply now? She’s 5 and in year one.

We understand you want the very best for your little one, not every child will need an education, health and care plan - settings can provide really great support without a formal EHCP. This is known as a ‘graduated approach’ and you can read more about this on our Local Offer: The Graduated Approach - Dorset Council 

It's really good to hear that your daughter's school is putting support in place. We would expect settings to make any reasonable adjustments first before approaching us about an Education, Health and Care Plan. 

You can email us at letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk with more information if you would like an individual conversation. 

 

When an EHCP is in place, what happens if the school isn’t fulfilling their duty in providing the appropriate support (Section F of the EHCP) - what are the routes to get the school to do so?

We recommend starting with a conversation with your child’s educational setting. 

Dorset Council works in partnership with educational settings to ensure they can meet the provisions outlined in Section F. If an educational setting requires additional support for a child or young person, we will work with the school to understand the specifics and determine the appropriate support. All requests are reviewed by a panel of special educational needs experts, who always consider the views of the child and family. 

You may also want to reach out to Dorset SENDIASS . The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset. 

You are welcome to contact the SENDIASS team directly. Their response time is up to five days, and they work on a triage system. When you contact them, please provide further information. Include any urgent deadlines or need, phone number and email plus availability.  

Website contact form: https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/contact/  

Email:  dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk  

Tel:  01305 595477 (answer machine service)  

Their website offers further advice and signposting at https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/  

Hello, my son and I would like to feedback on the forms to capture Parent and children/young people views for an annual review. What is the best way to do this please?

Thank you so much for your generous offer! We truly value feedback from our young people and their families, as it helps us shape a service that works for everyone. 

Please email letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk, and we’ll ensure your offer is passed on to the colleagues who review and update the formal paperwork. 

If its decided my child needs a specialist school how long will the process take? I have only just applied for EHCP

We know that for some children specialist provision is what is required, but for others it is possible for schools to meet your child’s needs. As part of the process, our team will work with you to determine the best place for your child to be. For many children, being in their local with their friends, is the best option and with support this can be made entirely possible. 

When you or your child’s school request a needs assessment, we have 6 weeks to let you know if we’ll proceed. We aim to respond sooner but may need more time if we’re waiting for information from your child’s current school. If we agree to assess, we have another 6 weeks to gather reports from professionals working with your child. 

If we decide to issue a plan, this will be done within 20 weeks from the initial request. During the assessment, we may find that your child could benefit from attending a more specialist school. 

If specialist provision is needed, your SEND Provision Lead will look for suitable schools, starting with the closest option. You can also suggest schools you prefer. We’ll inform you of the panel’s decision within 3 working days. We work with Dorset Special Schools every three weeks to review available spaces and ensure the right school can meet your child’s needs based on their EHCP. 

My child has a medical condition 'PANDAS' not been able to attend (on role mainstream school) for 3 years due to condition, school and medical trauma. Had to apply for EHCNA as parent, as school can't support need without causing more trauma. Initially declined due to lack of evidence, requested mediation and whilst waiting for this council have decided to access needs. Yet we are still being treated with parental blame as to why our son can't access education, this needs to change and parents need to be supported and listened too. Not really a question Just want to raise awareness of this condition and the lack of correct support.

We are really sorry to hear that this has been your experience and thank you for sharing this and helping to raise awareness about PANDAs.  

For those who may not be aware, PANDAs is a Paediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorder associated with group A Streptococcus (PANDAS). PANDAS and Paediatric Acute-onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome (PANS) are related disorders presenting with acute (<3 month) onset of multiple symptoms. PANS and PANDAS are considered to be post-infectious autoimmune and/or neuro-inflammatory disorders.  

Support should be needs-led rather than diagnosis-led led and from your question, it sounds as if this has not been your experience so far. If you would like to discuss this with NHS team further please contact us directly on send@nhsdorset.nhs.uk 

My daughter is diagnosed Autistic and PDA (pathological demand avoidance). What support is there for the PDA side of things? There's a lot out there for autism but PDA is so new it's difficult to find that support locally. I'm applying for an EHCP but she's in year 6 so I need something now with secondary school coming next year.

There are some other organisations that you may find really useful to look at:  

Training and support is available to schools in Dorset that promotes an  offer of support for children and young people presenting with PDA traits. We do have a position statement that may be helpful and includes signposting and resources  Microsoft Word - Dorset Position Statement PDA final (nhsdorset.nhs.uk) This was put together in partnership with parent carers as well as representatives from health, education and social care.   

In summary, Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is a profile of need as part of the Autism Spectrum (so in Dorset a PDA profile cannot be considered without a diagnosis of ASD). It can be helpful to think of PDA as a way of describing a range of anxiety-driven behaviours, where the child or young person often seeks to avoid everyday seemingly reasonable requests because they trigger anxiety. 

My son has an EHCP but there are no specialist school places available and no guidance on when one will become available. He is only allowed in school for 2.5 hours a day and has 3 hours a week of alternative provision. What else can be done to support him? I'm at crisis point as it's been like this for a long time – I’ve had to leave my NHS job to pick him up every day. CAMHS won't see him either and we're just at a total loss on what we do.

We’re so sorry to hear this, it is our firm belief that every child has a right to access an education where they can thrive. We would be keen to have a separate conversation with you so we can understand and try to help advice the next steps.  

The best way of doing this is by emailing us at letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk or by calling us at 01305 228866.  

My child's draft EHCP doesn't include alternative provision, but this was discussed throughout the process as being needed. What is the process for getting this included in the final EHCP?

It’s best to start by speaking with your child’s SEND Provision Lead, who provided the draft EHCP. If you’re not sure how to go about this or would like a further conversation about your individual circumstance, please email us at letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk  

We understand that some children may need extra support in their education, and they might be offered short-term alternative provision. During this time, if they stay connected with their peers and home school, they are often able to return successfully, feeling more confident and ready to thrive in their original setting. 

For young people in longer-term alternative provision, it can be more challenging to support their return to their home school. That’s why we always encourage alternative provision to be short-term, with a clear focus on specific learning goals. We recommend working closely with your child's usual setting first—they may be able to provide additional support or mentoring to help your child succeed. 

There is also information on the Dorset Local Offer here:   
Exclusions and alternative provision - Dorset Council  

My daughter has had an assessment agreed apparently they waiting for a professional advice to come through - can you explain what that means and do you know how long that takes?

When we carry out a needs assessment, we contact any professionals who are currently working with your child – this will include their setting and any medical practitioners (like Speech and Language, Occupational Therapy, Paediatrician).  We need to have a report from these professionals to inform the decision making as to whether an EHCP is needed.  

We would like to support you further with this. Please could you email: send@nhsdorset.nhs.uk  and we can further look into this. 

We are waiting for a placement for a special school and the panel is coming up. We are waiting for responses from one or two schools, as this is what is needed for him to start in year 2. But our son will really struggle more if he's forced to wait even longer - I know we have to wait for response, but what more can be done if the response does not go in our favour?

Once we agree that specialist provision is needed, your SEND Provision Lead will begin searching for suitable settings, starting with the closest option. You can also suggest other schools you'd like us to consider. We’ll inform you of the panel’s decision within 3 working days. The panel checks if the schools can meet your child’s needs as described in the EHCP. We meet every three weeks with Dorset Special Schools to discuss suitable children and available spaces. 

If your child isn’t offered a place in one of our special schools, those schools provide outreach support to mainstream schools to help them implement inclusive practices. 

You may also want to reach out to Dorset SENDIASS . The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset. 

Website contact form: https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/contact/  

Email:  dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk  

Tel:  01305 595477 (answer machine service)  

Their website offers further advice and signposting at https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/  

My older son has an EHCP and I’m appealing section F and I (regarding the appropriate SEND provision and educational setting) but the tribunal is set for October 2025! What happens in the meantime as the school named, wrote a 4 page letter that they can’t meet and he is refusing to go?

We know that going through a tribunal process is stressful, and I am sorry that you have had to pursue this. We know the tribunal service is under a lot of pressure, and we will continue to work with you, and your son's setting, in the meantime. We always try to work towards an agreed solution as quickly as we can. It sounds like an individual conversation would be helpful - please email us at letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk and we can come back to you.  

You may also want to reach out to Dorset SENDIASS . The Dorset Special Educational Needs and Disability Information, Advice and Support Service, provided by Family Action, offer free, confidential, accurate and impartial advice and support to families living in Dorset. 

You are welcome to contact the SENDIASS team directly. Their response time is up to five days, and they work on a triage system. When you contact them, please provide further information. Include any urgent deadlines or need, phone number and email plus availability.  

Website contact form: https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/contact/  

Email:  dorset.sendiass@family-action.org.uk  

Tel:  01305 595477 (answer machine service)  

Their website offers further advice and signposting at https://www.dorsetsendiass.co.uk/  

I was told by school that they couldn’t request an EHCP for my son on mental health grounds alone. Despite not being able to learn.

We are sorry to hear this. Anything that is impacting on the child's ability to learn could be considered for an education, health and care plan. 

Some young people need specific support to help with good mental health, and mental health teams in schools are sometimes involved (although not every school have these yet).  

We can pick up an individual conversation with you if you can email your details to letstalksend@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk if that helps. 

Is there any training available for parents with children with PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)?

NHS Dorset have a handy guide to PDA, which you can read on their website. 

The PDA society www.pdasociety.org.uk  provides many resources and information including helpful approaches.

National Autistic Society, also has resources and advice, see www.autism.org.uk/about/what-is/pda.aspx.

Does a child need a diagnosis to be supported with additional needs?

Simply put, no – a child should be supported in their setting regardless of a diagnosis. Every setting should be working closely with you and your child to make sure they can learn well.   

In some cases, if extra help is required, they might be described as being at ‘SEN Support’ level. Settings may then put an individual action plan (sometimes known as an individual education plan – IEP) in place that describes what support that child needs.  

SENDCOs (special educational needs and disabilities coordinators) should be a good point of contact for you at the school, as they will know what is currently available. They may also apply something called the ‘graduated approach’, which involves making a step-by-step plan to help your child access learning.  

If you are concerned that your child or young person is not doing so well and you have already tried to work with the setting, please contact us at LetsTalkSEND@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk and we will contact you for an individual conversation.